I agree with Paul, enough is enough. I'm just a one man operation, I don't have the luxury of a team of designers or coders at my beck and call, but even I take the time to work in support for IE6.
But when I say work in, I don't add some JavaScript or code a special CSS file set, I just simply take the time to validate and cross-browser check (plus cross-OS check) my work. That in itself makes things work in IE6, and to be honest I've had recent issues with IE8.
You can’t dictate to users that they need to update from IE6, that in itself just means users will not surf your site, after all an average web surfer will not upgrade there browser to surf one site. I mean you would happily download an app or plug-in that takes 5 minutes to download and maybe another 5 plus a re-boot to install just to view a site. I very much doubt it.
And to put some figures up for debate, 14.4% of internet users in July 2009 used IE6. Or to put it another way, Chrome came in at 6.5%, Safari at 3.3% and Opera at 2.1% according to browser stats from w3schools.com.
So come on IE6 bashers, just leave it alone, there's bigger fish to fry.
@pauldunn - I certainly didn’t post this comment to get publicity. I have nothing to gain from this debate. Better to back up my opinion then just say "I agree". It just so happened I’d recently written about it. That’s all - no hidden agenda.
I am part of the squish ie set. Working for a small agency with a high client volume, we simply don't have the time or resources to educate clients who can hardly forward an email, and to make a version of the site that can be viewed in an older browser. I think that's a privileged reserved for bigger agencies with bigger budgets, and more power to them! You can probably screen your clients more, and attract ones that have far more web savvy that the local businesses we get in here. So unless there's a way to accomplish your 'rants' goals in under an hour, I have to get my tweets behind the banishment of ie!
I agree with Paul, enough is enough. I'm just a one man operation, I don't have the luxury of a team of designers or coders at my beck and call, but even I take the time to work in support for IE6.
But when I say work in, I don't add some JavaScript or code a special CSS file set, I just simply take the time to validate and cross-browser check (plus cross-OS check) my work. That in itself makes things work in IE6, and to be honest I've had recent issues with IE8.
You can’t dictate to users that they need to update from IE6, that in itself just means users will not surf your site, after all an average web surfer will not upgrade there browser to surf one site. I mean you would happily download an app or plug-in that takes 5 minutes to download and maybe another 5 plus a re-boot to install just to view a site. I very much doubt it.
And to put some figures up for debate, 14.4% of internet users in July 2009 used IE6. Or to put it another way, Chrome came in at 6.5%, Safari at 3.3% and Opera at 2.1% according to browser stats from w3schools.com.
So come on IE6 bashers, just leave it alone, there's bigger fish to fry.
TheDJBook almost 4 years ago
@pauldunn - I certainly didn’t post this comment to get publicity. I have nothing to gain from this debate. Better to back up my opinion then just say "I agree". It just so happened I’d recently written about it. That’s all - no hidden agenda.
n_smooth almost 4 years ago
I am part of the squish ie set. Working for a small agency with a high client volume, we simply don't have the time or resources to educate clients who can hardly forward an email, and to make a version of the site that can be viewed in an older browser.
I think that's a privileged reserved for bigger agencies with bigger budgets, and more power to them! You can probably screen your clients more, and attract ones that have far more web savvy that the local businesses we get in here.
So unless there's a way to accomplish your 'rants' goals in under an hour, I have to get my tweets behind the banishment of ie!
SorcaDesign almost 4 years ago
I see the two comments have confirmed Paul's statement that people are using this topic for publicity.
pauldunn almost 4 years ago
here, here!
Made some very similar points in my rant/comment http://www.thepickards.co.uk/index.php/200908/ie6-no-more/comment-page-1/#comment-55998
scrumph almost 4 years ago
Couldn’t agree more. In fact I recently went on record (albeit not quite so passionately ;-) on my blog saying something similar: "Internet Expire 6.0" - http://www.dusteddesign.com/blog/internet-explorer-6-expire-already/
n_smooth almost 4 years ago