btw, This conversation is an example of the benefits of podcasting/audio boo, I can wander round the site looking to hear what interesting things people say and pick up a conversation days if not months down the line (as it was in this case) .
it would be cool to expose a feed for the comments on audio boo (if there isn't already one) so it's easier to find other conversations likes this happening on the site. I think i'll visit the forum to raise a suggestion :)
i am on twitter - same name, tinnion, so please follow me there. :)
Good conversation here, I'm afraid we may have exhausted all there is to say on the matter! I can see how that makes sense for you. I happen to be on a rolling contract with o2 that gets me unlimited data, and I have a 3gs so it can just about handle the load, although it isn't the ideal device for the job.
I hate asking people for their wifi keys also. and I wouldn't use the iPad on the tube either. Not a blogger. I gave it a go, before, but not too keen on releasing a personal journal type ting any more.
I do have a site waiting to be released, but I want it to be much more a log of my creations or discoveries. And software I release, or workarounds to computer errors et cetera. The kinds of things I find myself googling for a lot of the time.
Are you on twitter? I'm glad we had this conversation here, as it is most definitely over 140 characters!
good response fella. well done for typing all that on your iphone. Not sure I would have the patience :)
I totally agree with your points about the need for yet another 3G device/tariff. My need for the 3G is driven primarily by how and where I use the device, and my desire to pack light.
1. Usage pattern I mostly use my iPad away from home. I don't have an office (except at home) so when I am out, taking my own WIFI/3G is super handy and affords personal freedom to work from anywhere + I can avoid imposing on a client for a WIFI key in a first meeting.
I rarely use the iPad on the train, because people do look over your shoulder :) Their curiosity is bearable when you're reading a book or newspaper but not work material or personal email. I'd never use the iPad on the tube because of fear of it being damaged or stolen but that's just me being over cautious.
2. 3G costs I have a rolling 1 month contract on 3. I wouldn't sign up for anything that would tie me in for longer. I have considered changing to PAYG on 02 but the mobile network can get congested in Reading town centre so I think i'll stick with 3.
The cost is only £7.50 which I see as the price of forgoing a couple of (cheapish) beers per month which I can live with (just) :D
3. Battery life / Packing lite The 10 hour battery life is just amazing and makes all the difference because I can leave the charger at home. If the MIFI or my mobile could last that long then I would definitely be less inclined to buy the 3G version + the mobile data package.
I sometimes take a notebook pc with me too because I need to run certain apps, but I have take the charger for that (4 hour battery life). To solve this issue, I am thinking about running more apps in the cloud and looking to try out VNC or other remoting tool to see if that works (wishful thinking) - i'd need WIFI access to do this otherwise i'd need a 2nd mortgage to cover the 3G bill :)
btw. if you're a blogging kind of fella, feel free to include my comments if you write about the iPad.
Ok so 6 months on and I use the iPad for the majority of my personal computing tasks. It is so fast, not necessarily computationally, but just fast to pick up, google something, then put down. It it absolutely my go to device and a joy to use.
Technically it is just a big iPod, but in reality the form makes it an entirely different beast. You're seeing websites as they're meant to be, rather than a 2 inch window. And truly anyone can pick one up and know how to use it instinctively.
So yes, I do feel different. I'm taking the office iPad home with me at evenings and weekends. I don't own one. I would never have bought one and never had got to spend time with one otherwise, so I'm happy that I've had a chance to change my mind.
I don't think I could justify the money for the 3G version, and here's why: 1- the iPad is a sit down device. My life is 'home - tube - work - tube - home'. Obviously 3G is a no no on the tube. Likewise if you drive to work, you can't use the iPad. As I said it is a sit down device and to be honest I spend most of my time going between places that have wifi. Again, this is just my usage patterns so other's mileages may vary...
2 - I carry a HSDPA enabled device with me everywhere - my iPhone. It seems stupid to pay a prion and then a monthly contract for another 3G connection. I also jailbreak, so at any time can start up 'MiWi' and create a portable wifi access point for the iPad (still something I've never needed to do). I would guess I would feel differently if I got a bus or overground train to work, or spend time in places without wifi.
So basically, yes I like the iPad. It isn't cheap when a netbook can do more for half the price - but that isn't the point. It's an instant-on window to the Internet with flipping 10 hours battery! I would jar to agree about reading, I use it for reference material, but not for actual novels. It is also a bit too large and heavy to hold right, whereas a kindle is perfect in that respect.
Wow I wrote a lot there ^. look forward to your thoughts
it is an interesting topic. glad we had the chat.
btw, This conversation is an example of the benefits of podcasting/audio boo, I can wander round the site looking to hear what interesting things people say and pick up a conversation days if not months down the line (as it was in this case) .
it would be cool to expose a feed for the comments on audio boo (if there isn't already one) so it's easier to find other conversations likes this happening on the site. I think i'll visit the forum to raise a suggestion :)
i am on twitter - same name, tinnion, so please follow me there. :)
tinnion almost 3 years ago
Good conversation here, I'm afraid we may have exhausted all there is to say on the matter! I can see how that makes sense for you. I happen to be on a rolling contract with o2 that gets me unlimited data, and I have a 3gs so it can just about handle the load, although it isn't the ideal device for the job.
I hate asking people for their wifi keys also. and I wouldn't use the iPad on the tube either. Not a blogger. I gave it a go, before, but not too keen on releasing a personal journal type ting any more.
I do have a site waiting to be released, but I want it to be much more a log of my creations or discoveries. And software I release, or workarounds to computer errors et cetera. The kinds of things I find myself googling for a lot of the time.
Are you on twitter? I'm glad we had this conversation here, as it is most definitely over 140 characters!
skattyadz almost 3 years ago
good response fella. well done for typing all that on your iphone. Not sure I would have the patience :)
I totally agree with your points about the need for yet another 3G device/tariff. My need for the 3G is driven primarily by how and where I use the device, and my desire to pack light.
1. Usage pattern
I mostly use my iPad away from home. I don't have an office (except at home) so when I am out, taking my own WIFI/3G is super handy and affords personal freedom to work from anywhere + I can avoid imposing on a client for a WIFI key in a first meeting.
I rarely use the iPad on the train, because people do look over your shoulder :) Their curiosity is bearable when you're reading a book or newspaper but not work material or personal email. I'd never use the iPad on the tube because of fear of it being damaged or stolen but that's just me being over cautious.
2. 3G costs
I have a rolling 1 month contract on 3. I wouldn't sign up for anything that would tie me in for longer. I have considered changing to PAYG on 02 but the mobile network can get congested in Reading town centre so I think i'll stick with 3.
The cost is only £7.50 which I see as the price of forgoing a couple of (cheapish) beers per month which I can live with (just) :D
3. Battery life / Packing lite
The 10 hour battery life is just amazing and makes all the difference because I can leave the charger at home. If the MIFI or my mobile could last that long then I would definitely be less inclined to buy the 3G version + the mobile data package.
I sometimes take a notebook pc with me too because I need to run certain apps, but I have take the charger for that (4 hour battery life). To solve this issue, I am thinking about running more apps in the cloud and looking to try out VNC or other remoting tool to see if that works (wishful thinking) - i'd need WIFI access to do this otherwise i'd need a 2nd mortgage to cover the 3G bill :)
btw. if you're a blogging kind of fella, feel free to include my comments if you write about the iPad.
tinnion almost 3 years ago
* and 'jar' means 'have'. Wrote this on the fiddly little iPhone keyboard.
skattyadz almost 3 years ago
* pay a premium, not a 'prion'
skattyadz almost 3 years ago
Ok so 6 months on and I use the iPad for the majority of my personal computing tasks. It is so fast, not necessarily computationally, but just fast to pick up, google something, then put down. It it absolutely my go to device and a joy to use.
Technically it is just a big iPod, but in reality the form makes it an entirely different beast. You're seeing websites as they're meant to be, rather than a 2 inch window. And truly anyone can pick one up and know how to use it instinctively.
So yes, I do feel different. I'm taking the office iPad home with me at evenings and weekends. I don't own one. I would never have bought one and never had got to spend time with one otherwise, so I'm happy that I've had a chance to change my mind.
I don't think I could justify the money for the 3G version, and here's why:
1- the iPad is a sit down device. My life is 'home - tube - work - tube - home'. Obviously 3G is a no no on the tube. Likewise if you drive to work, you can't use the iPad. As I said it is a sit down device and to be honest I spend most of my time going between places that have wifi. Again, this is just my usage patterns so other's mileages may vary...
2 - I carry a HSDPA enabled device with me everywhere - my iPhone. It seems stupid to pay a prion and then a monthly contract for another 3G connection. I also jailbreak, so at any time can start up 'MiWi' and create a portable wifi access point for the iPad (still something I've never needed to do). I would guess I would feel differently if I got a bus or overground train to work, or spend time in places without wifi.
So basically, yes I like the iPad. It isn't cheap when a netbook can do more for half the price - but that isn't the point. It's an instant-on window to the Internet with flipping 10 hours battery! I would jar to agree about reading, I use it for reference material, but not for actual novels. It is also a bit too large and heavy to hold right, whereas a kindle is perfect in that respect.
Wow I wrote a lot there ^. look forward to your thoughts
skattyadz almost 3 years ago